I found some 5 polypores attached to the bark of living Quercus ilex (Holm oak) trees in a park, somewhat damaged by Xmas lights decorations. The core is composed of 2 (or 3) layers. The hymenophore is soft. I managed to see few spores too, apparently thick walled. The context stains deep reddish-brown with 4% KOH. Could you help in the ID please?. Young Inonotus (Inocutis) dryophilus ?
Polypore (inonotus ?) on living oak trees (Q. ilex)
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Hello, Steve!
If the context is truly dimitic (real skeletal hyphae without septations), then this would be a Phellinus.But sometimes it can be quite difficult to distinguish Phellinuzs s.l. from Inonotus s.l., especially in young fruitbodies.
Just guessing - how they grow, an which substrate, and how they look: This might be Phellinus robustus (= Fomitoporia rubusta).
If they grow older, they should become really hard. And of course dimitic and without any setae.
Lg; pablo.
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In the first photo on the left I think that is a decaying example which gave me the guidance of being an annual polypore.
I can monitor regularly (this is a park near to work) and see what happens when they mature. If they decompose and die (=annual) it might be I. dryophila. They were attached to bark and even cortex of living holm oak trees
I try to provide images of the context. So if I see septation that's a big clue ?
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Hello, Steve!
In Inontus You might find some "skeletoid" Hyphae. Those would look similar to true skeletal Hyphae, the septations may be difficult to find. So it is a clue, but it is also not easy to observe.
One of the reasons, why i don't like working Hymenochaetales (especially phellinus): They are really ennoying under the microskope! Hard, dense - difficult to preperate and difficult to interprete.
Inonotus dryophilus sounds good, though.They should be more or less soft when young and crumbly when decaying.
Lg; pablo.
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They should be more or less soft when young and crumbly when decaying.
Lg; pablo.
Yes, that's what the case and also dark reddish-brown when overmature and decaying out. I think I found a similar specimen on Celtis australis again above grown and on the bark of a living tree on mainland Malta. Crumbling brown debris was at the foot of the trunk and fall down on the ground
ZitatThey are really ennoying under the microscope! Hard, dense - difficult to prepare and difficult to interprete.: gkopfkratz:
Yes, I haven't grasped very well the concept of monomitic / dimitic / trimitic, generative hyphae, skeletal hypha, etc when examining under the microscope. They just look like a brush of unspecialised mycelia entangled into each other. I had a look again this morning and I an interesting parasite!
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Yes, I haven't grasped very well the concept of monomitic / dimitic / trimitic, generative hyphae, skeletal hypha, etc when examining under the microscope. They just look like a brush of unspecialised mycelia entangled into each other. I had a look again this morning and I an interesting parasite!
Look what I found in the mycelia of this Inocutis dryophilus. A mycoparasite