Grey fungus with inrolled margin, white lamellae, no ring

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    At first, I thought this is some small Gomphidius but it lacks a ring (ring scar), pileus not moist or slimy and the stipe is a bit different too. I defaulted to Clitocybe (nebularis?) but I am not saying that is the genus, just logic thoughts. The two specimens were ca. 1.5 cm across and short.

    Hi.


    This kinda looks Pleurotus to me. I don't know if you guys have Pleurotus eryngii but might be worth checking against. There are several varieties described depending on the host plants so might be worth to check plants nearby too.


    Disclaimer: I've never found this species before so I might be wrong.


    LG.

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    93 Chibs - APR-Gebühr 2024 = 83 Chibs

    I know quite well Pleurotus eryngii which grows on dead Ferula sp. (giant fennel) and I saw a few hundreds of examples and they are pretty large specimens. These were less than 2 cm. I have found this on ground covered by fallen old leaves of Punica granatum. Roots and basal mycelium white with some yellowish tinge and quite deep into the soil (terrestrial ?). There was a distinct root.

    Hi.


    Alright, you have more experience with them than me then. I thought they might just be young ones, since even big mushrooms do start out small. Clitocybe nebularis has a pretty recognizable smell if you know it, but I don't think it's that species. Apart from my first idea I don't really have a suggestion here however.


    LG.

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    93 Chibs - APR-Gebühr 2024 = 83 Chibs

    Zitat von Schupfnudel

    This kinda looks Pleurotus to me. I don't know if you guys have Pleurotus eryngii but might be worth checking against. There are several varieties described depending on the host plants so might be worth to check plants nearby too.


    Disclaimer: I've never found this species before so I might be wrong.


    LG.


    Pablo!!! You are correct about Pleurotus . Cylindrical-ellipsoid spores (Q>3), lack of cystidia, pileipellis a cutis of entangled hyphae. Yet I cant believe it is an eryngii if they are 2cm when fully developed, stipe central, no Ferula close by!!! I dry my specimen and show my finding to Prof. Giuseppe Venturella. If its relly eryngii, then it is really variable!

    Hi Steve,


    great that you could verify it by microscopy. Apart from Ferula other possible substrates mentioned in the literature are Daucus, Eryngium, Heracleum, Laserpitium, Thapsia etc. but I probably wouldn't even recognize these plants myself. My skills in botany are pretty limited. But maybe it used one of those if you have those plants? Or the material was too degraded to be properly identified.

    I do think they might still have gotten a bit bigger after some more time.


    Be sure to let us know if you get a response from Prof. Giuseppe Venturella.


    Greetings,

    Schupfi

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    93 Chibs - APR-Gebühr 2024 = 83 Chibs

    Hi, when taking one specimen, I had pulled it out completely and there was nothing attached to it. So strange, as if it was terrestrial! Here only var. ferrulea is recorded while in the past var. nebrodensis was recorded probably in mistake, and coincidentally for being small and regular in shape. var. ferulae is typically 8 - 25cm, unsymmetrical, eccentric stype, attached to dead old stems of Ferula communis. (huge plant with perennial roots)


    Now you must really see this 😱


    KR100954964B1 - A novel pleurotus eryngii var. ferulae strain ddl01 and method of producing it - Google Patents


    It looks similar isn't it! Colours, shape, small size!


    Anyway, i will certainly write back if I have news from Venturella. I write to him today.


    Thanks for Yr help. 💗

  • Steve_mt

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