Do you confirm Clitopilus hobsonii or should I provide some micro-examination to be sure on the species ?
P.s. those brown blobs are not dust or artefacts but something growing from the fungsu, like fungus galls!?
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Do you confirm Clitopilus hobsonii or should I provide some micro-examination to be sure on the species ?
P.s. those brown blobs are not dust or artefacts but something growing from the fungsu, like fungus galls!?
Hallo Steve,
littte brown blobs often might be simply springtail feces.
Are you sure it's a living something attached ro the little fungus?
Sorry, I can't help with the fungus per se.
Martin
I have no indication they are living things (these are 0.2mm) but they are attached to the gills and they will not come loose even if touched or tried to apply force with dissecting needle. It could be soft faeces which solidified on the gills if that can happen.
Some not-good photos from stereomicroscope (x40) seems to show they are embedded within the gills or even have a tiny stipe?!
Hi Steve,
there a few other look-alike genera like Crepidotus, Cheimonophyllum...
Without any microscopic characters you get no diagnosis.
Best regards
Harald
I have given a quick check at the spores and I think you are right about Crepidotus - the spores are too large for C. hobsonii, and their shape, a bit like a lemon due to a distinct-swollen apiculus is also Crepidotus rather Clitocybe.
Spores:
(7) 7.1 - 8.3 (8.9) × (4) 4.1 - 4.8 (5.2) µm
Q = (1.5) 1.52 - 1.8 (2) ; N = 12
V = 61 - 98 (110) µm3
Me = 7.6 × 4.5 µm ; Qe = 1.7 ; Ve = 81 µm3
Further research and applying the key on European species, I have landed on Crepidotus subverrucisporus , typically on calcareous habitats
https://www.mykoweb.com/Crepidotus/species/Crepidotus_subverrucisporus_subverrucisporus.html
C. variabilis has smaller spores (Sp 5.5-7.5 x 2.5-4 μm), and more narrow - subcylindrical
C. cesatti has more broad (subglobose) spores (Q. <1.4)
C. luteolus has yellow tinge (at the less)
C. lundellii* is closely related but it is said to have brownish colours when dry and not calcareous
So at the moment, this is Crepidotus subverrucisporus or C. lundellii - I guess I have to re-examine the cheilocystidia?
C. lundellii: https://www.hlasek.com/crepidotus_lundellii1en.html
* One of its synonyms is Crepidotus inhonestus !lol! - why this fungus is dishonest haha!
Hi Steve,
why do you think this is a Crepidotus? Spores appear rather pale for this... furthermore, you can see fine ridges along the spores which would be typical of Clitopilus.
Björn
Hi Steve
I might be wrong, but I think these spores have longitudinal ribs. And spores of Crepidotus sp. should be darker under the microscope.
Probably you were right with Clitopilus, maybe Clitopilus daamsii?
Best regards
Raphael
I abandoned C. hobsonii because of its smaller spore size. Also, the robust apiculum is something which mislead me. But yes, I agree about the longitudinal shadows of the spores (see a better image here!). Moreover, I went to check for the Cheilocystidia and could not find any -I think what I am seeing are basidioles. If I remember what I read in the afternoon, lack of cheilocystidia is a Clitocybe character.
Clitocybe it is. I think it can remain within the variability of C. hobsonii!
Hello!
Clitocybe it is. I think it can remain within the variability of C. hobsonii!
The real name is "Clitopilus", not Clitocybe.
http://www.pilzflora-ehingen.de/pilzflora/arthtml/chobsonii.php
VG Ingo W
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Clitocybe it is. I think it can remain within the variability of C. hobsonii!
The real name is "Clitopilus", not Clitocybe.
http://www.pilzflora-ehingen.d…ora/arthtml/chobsonii.php
VG Ingo W
Dear Ingo,
Yes I got tired yesterday - I corrected the names. I agree re hobsonii, yesterday night I found the differences between the two, mainly the spore length with hobsonii being: 7.5-8.5 and daamsii : 8.0-11.5 um. I really a merry-g0-round here but it is nice to learn. i will never forget the vertical ridges now
Thanks to all - I appreciate a lot
LG
Steve